To get specific results from my analysis, I had to put in some specific assumptions. Wong never states this is exactly what happens with correlation shooters it is my own simplified interpretation. Based on a careful reading of Wong on Dice, for purposes of this page, I assume the correlation shooter shoots randomly, except the probability of zero-pitch throws is a certain percentage higher than expectations, at the cost of an equal reduction in double-pitches. Likewise, a single-pitch is when both dice stay on axis, but one die rotates 90 degrees more or less than the other. A double-pitch is when both dice stay on axis, but one die rotates 180 degrees more than the other. The correlation shooter hopes to increase this probability above 25%, by reducing the probability of the dreaded double-pitch throw. For a random shooter, if the dice did stay on axis, there would be a 25% chance of their landing with the same faces together, as when the dice were in the shooter's hand. However, when the dice do stay on axis, the rotations of the two dice are correlated. The first type of shooter is what I'll call the 'correlation shooter.' The correlation shooter does no better than a random shooter at keeping the dice on axis.

Two things can go wrong after the dice leave the shooter's hands, and that is what divides the two types of shooters. Both types of shooters set the dice in a certain way, hoping to keep them on axis, and together in rotation, as if the dice were glued together. What is happening on these successful throws? There are two schools of thought, or types of shooters.

However, it takes a small percentage only of precise throws to overcome the house edge. How Dice Control Allegedly WorksĮven the strongest believers in dice control will admit that most throws, even of the best shooters, are still random. The purpose of this page is to quantify the player advantage, according to his skill level, and recommend the best dice settings. That said, everything else in this page is from the hypothetical perspective that the dice can be influenced. My craps appendix 3 outlines evidence I have gathered. Still some people I respect do believe in it, mainly Stanford Wong, who trained under Golden Touch Craps. If I ran a casino, I would allow it too, because I think the number of people who can influence the dice (if any) is far outweighed by the number who think they can, but can't. I don't rule out the possibility, but I'm not convinced. One of the most hotly debated topics among advantage gamblers is whether or not it is possible to influence the throw of the dice in craps. On This Page Expectations for the Dice Setter Disclaimer

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